tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post7781947868817873197..comments2024-01-03T06:52:57.387-05:00Comments on Pappillon: Tyler Hamilton Training company is under way, would you want your kids coached by him?JMPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-30113456542147934972010-03-18T20:01:03.461-05:002010-03-18T20:01:03.461-05:00Ahhh, nothing, errr, I mean - the same! THF jersey...Ahhh, nothing, errr, I mean - the same! THF jersey + Phonak gloves lol! ;)JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-89052368090859541312010-03-18T18:48:14.807-05:002010-03-18T18:48:14.807-05:00I was talking about a neato THF 'Believe' ...I was talking about a neato THF 'Believe' jersey and a signed pair of Phonak gloves. What were you talking about? :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09996839200059295767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-80169551336238090032010-03-17T21:25:30.183-05:002010-03-17T21:25:30.183-05:00Easy there, Dirty. By "gear" we can only...Easy there, Dirty. By "gear" we can only assume that you mean a training jersey and shorts, or use of an SRM...it's one thing to question an ex-rider's suitability as a coach, another entirely to imply that he's providing "gear" to his clients. Tsk Tsk. 5 demerits.JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-16899001104828464202010-03-17T20:27:10.090-05:002010-03-17T20:27:10.090-05:00I heard his fee is $500/mo. Does that include '...I heard his fee is $500/mo. Does that include 'gear'?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09996839200059295767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-58740520152131238172010-03-17T12:12:36.296-05:002010-03-17T12:12:36.296-05:00Thanks, Anon 12:09. Any idea if TH is going to be ...Thanks, Anon 12:09. Any idea if TH is going to be recommending physicians, too?JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-79818413359536811622010-03-17T12:09:34.008-05:002010-03-17T12:09:34.008-05:00I heard Tyler is just prescribing his old training...I heard Tyler is just prescribing his old training diary to his athletes... http://velonews.competitor.com/2006/06/news/paper-says-hamilton-implicated-in-spanish-investigation_10110Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-73876153531475737682010-03-15T20:11:12.307-05:002010-03-15T20:11:12.307-05:00OH, Anon 12:43 - thanks. Remind me to tell you the...OH, Anon 12:43 - thanks. Remind me to tell you the one about a horse, a pig, a priest, and Adam Myerson.JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-86768736551726936212010-03-15T18:00:15.755-05:002010-03-15T18:00:15.755-05:00Even a euro-pro has to start somewhere, and if he&...Even a euro-pro has to start somewhere, and if he's American, he may have raced a junior/cat 3-4 event (and perhaps won it).<br /><br />As for "the greater the talent, the less likely that the athlete has had to take the time to consider how to extract the most from his God given gifts," who knows? I'm not sure what you're contending...is coaching knowledge acquired only through experience or through formal training or a combination of both? <br /><br />But as for not knowing what's needed to win a cat3 race...well, it's the same anywhere: fitness, the tactical understanding of when to use that fitness, good bike handling, strategic knowledge of how to race and win as an individual...<br /><br />This is a silly argument. Just start comparing Hamilton to individual coaches and we can pick a "victor" from each match-up.JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-9985950302108299732010-03-15T14:20:41.507-05:002010-03-15T14:20:41.507-05:00That a hell of a strawman argument you make. I...That a hell of a strawman argument you make. I'd be interesting hearing your thoughts on what I wrote.Luckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12089477054160881578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-55921017538094387612010-03-15T12:43:38.498-05:002010-03-15T12:43:38.498-05:00dope or no dope - hes seen and done it all trainin...dope or no dope - hes seen and done it all training wise. im sure he can add some valuable insight into what makes an elite champion. plus the stories...can you imagine the stories that guys got? <br />id be proud to have him coach my son or daughter. same goes for Papp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-65595626106316194762010-03-15T10:49:48.279-05:002010-03-15T10:49:48.279-05:00"In fact I'll content that the greater th..."In fact I'll content that the greater the talent, the less likely that the athlete has had to take the time to consider how to extract the most from his God given gifts."<br /><br />I've heard this before many times, the assumption being that the naturally-gifted athlete hasn't had to work for his success because it comes solely as a result of super-natural god-given talent. Sounds like one of those "obvious" beliefs that one just "takes on faith" ... though it would be interesting to measure through actual scientific study... Is a crappy cat 3 a better coach than a successful pro, assuming they've both had the same coaching education opportunities...JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-92035079974671825712010-03-15T10:04:36.897-05:002010-03-15T10:04:36.897-05:00Ethics aside.
Having a huge VO2 doesn't make ...Ethics aside.<br /><br />Having a huge VO2 doesn't make one a good coach.<br /><br />In fact I'll content that the greater the talent, the less likely that the athlete has had to take the time to consider how to extract the most from his God given gifts.<br /><br />I'll also contend that your typical euro pro has no frame of reference on what it takes to win a cat 3 crit.<br /><br />Lucky LaudAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-8076897600291431182010-03-14T23:21:56.006-05:002010-03-14T23:21:56.006-05:00"What makes you think that he'd be a good..."What makes you think that he'd be a good choice to advice you on how to excel dope free."? <br /><br />Perhaps because he has enjoyed success consistently, throughout his career...and may not have been doping the entire time. Unless you need coaching on how to win L-B-L, he probably can help some bratty kid do better in the local Wednesday night training criterium.<br /><br />The coach I would think that people would be up in arms about, wondering about sending their kids to, is Mike Fraysse. Sheesh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Fraysse<br /><br />I had no idea that he and Eddie B. were involved in the blood doping logistics, as I thought it was all Ed Burke.JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-54913293034133637632010-03-14T11:16:04.401-05:002010-03-14T11:16:04.401-05:00"What is it with the notion that once someone..."What is it with the notion that once someone has been caught, sanctioned and served their suspension, they should be blackballed and blacklisted "<br /><br />- That's fine except Tyler hasn't served his suspension yet. <br /><br />I don't need a mea culpa, but it does seem logical that until he shows some effort to acknowledge his offenses and some attempt to use his experience to clean up the sport...then you can assume that he hasn't changed his attitude regarding doping. <br /><br />Given that, I have the same question..." why would you trust your kid to someone who has shown such bad judgment and a continued lack of responsibility". <br /><br />Beyond that, Tyler's success and notoriety was garnered as a result of his cheating. Why would you want to reward that behavior. If he took shortcuts to win, what makes you think that he'd be a good choice to advice you on how to excel dope free.<br /><br />There ARE other coaches.Luckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12089477054160881578noreply@blogger.com