tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post254228911582947021..comments2024-01-03T06:52:57.387-05:00Comments on Pappillon: We've Got This One in the Bag!JMPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-61611931011856276322010-02-22T15:26:39.871-05:002010-02-22T15:26:39.871-05:00Well, I guess I read it as posing a primary threat...Well, I guess I read it as posing a primary threat of exposing doping that's already happened, and any behavior/action it prevents or deters is sort of secondary. The deterrence is there, but secondary - especially since people could presumably use glass instead.<br /><br />Malcolm Gladwell - the tipping point guy - wrote an interesting bit on criminal profiling. His point was, profiles don't work if criminals can just change the behavior that's being profiled. That it's only effective if there's a static (instead of dynamic) relationship between the behavior and the profile. Similarly, while testing for plasticizers might be useful now, its usefulness is limited. People could just stop using plastic containers without stopping blood doping.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-43582426785738124932010-02-22T14:24:44.197-05:002010-02-22T14:24:44.197-05:00I wouldn't mind hearing what others have to sa...I wouldn't mind hearing what others have to say, especially given today's news that the first HGH positive test result has been recorded. Is a test for plasticizers of immediate value, or is it something that should only be feared by those who've already doped?JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-10699242729110824762010-02-22T14:11:34.485-05:002010-02-22T14:11:34.485-05:00Thanks for the comments tho, n1line...Thanks for the comments tho, n1line...JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-90844975042214214422010-02-22T14:11:15.436-05:002010-02-22T14:11:15.436-05:00How isn't it pro-active? From now and until a ...How isn't it pro-active? From now and until a new storage and transfusion materials solution can be found, testing for plasticizers could deter blood doping - while also catching riders whose samples have been stored and may contain evidence of autologous transfusions. Isn't all testing by nature going to be reactive? Aranesp was probably the only true proactive test in that work was done w/ the manufacturer to develop the control before the product found widespread acceptance in the peloton. <br /><br />If you introduce a test for plasticizers now, it could bring to a halt blood doping/transfusions, until such time as non-plastic storage and delivery methods were developed. No?JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346798683078093966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-24615896596814432482010-02-21T19:31:20.693-05:002010-02-21T19:31:20.693-05:00A huge threat? To riders who have already doped.
...A huge threat? To riders who have already doped.<br /><br />...which is reactive, it isn't a proactive step to stop doping from currently happening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-25000677999966571732010-02-21T18:05:16.953-05:002010-02-21T18:05:16.953-05:00Valid point. I'm sure there would be ways arou...Valid point. I'm sure there would be ways around the plasticizers, but I think if this test were used retrospectively it would be a huge threat.PhDuanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14380771938132678528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29196779.post-69708271284236050702010-02-21T16:41:40.301-05:002010-02-21T16:41:40.301-05:00Before plastic, wasn't blood for transfusions ...Before plastic, wasn't blood for transfusions stored in glass? If WADA adopts this test, athletes, team staff, and doping doctors would know about it. What would stop them from having the blood stored in glass?Touriste-Routiernoreply@blogger.com